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Let or stroke on a lob

Published: 13 Nov 2010 - 13:10 by doubledot

Updated: 02 Apr 2011 - 11:53

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If you have your opponent in the front court and hit a lob over their head pushing them to the back court and  the ball does not die off the back wall but comes out and is playable; now if you have not provided them with direct access to the front wall, is this a let or stroke.   My understanding would be a let only if they could get to and play the ball because they have in effect "turned".   Any comments on this please?

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From raystrach - 15 Nov 2010 - 22:40

turning your back to the front wall has nothing to do with turning. in fact, you can be deemed to have "turned" on a ball, even though you were facing the front wall the whole time.

it is considered turning when the ball passes you on one side of your body, but you then take the ball (hit it) on the other side of your body.

this can start to get complicated when trying to write about it, but if you were running towards the back wall on the backhand side and the ball was between you and the backhand wall, but when you eventually came to hit the ball, you were now between the ball the and backhand wall, you would have "turned" on the ball.

if the ball was still between you and the backhand wall when you hit it, no turning would have taken place.

All of which makes mike pretty right.

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From mike - 14 Nov 2010 - 22:31

Well technically I think it depends which way they turn (to face the back) and which way they turn back (to hit).  For example if the player is at the front, turns anti-clockwise (to their left), runs to the back, then reverses their 'turning' by turning clockwise to hit forward I would not consider that to be 'turning on the ball' — I think a stroke option would still be on the cards. Especially if you haven't made enough effort to clear the front wall.

A player turning doesn't cancel your obligation to try and provide access, it's just that a let is the decision because it's often hard for the opponent to know where to stand to be clear and for the player to know if it's safe to hit or not.

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From doubledot - 13 Nov 2010 - 21:05

The opponent turned their back on the front wall and chased the ball to the back court.   Would this make it a let only, they were looking for a stroke?

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From mike - 13 Nov 2010 - 17:42

“My understanding would be a let only if they could get to and play the ball”

Well a player always needs to be able to do this in order to get a let or a stroke. If they couldn't have done that, the shot was a winner and any interference to the front wall is irrelevant.

I  wouldn't usually class a lob as turning unless they have spun around while watching it, or following it back. Sounds like a stroke if they don't have the front wall.

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