False shots or adventage shots?
Published: 09 Mar 2006 - 21:04 by drop-shot
Updated: 23 Oct 2009 - 14:31
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Last weeks i spent watching the pro PSA tour and analyzing their game. From Shabana to Boswell... Footwork, shot selection, retrieving, etc.
One thing really did hit my mind and i tried to implement it in my game to a big surprise of my coach and sparringpartners. I am talking here about "loose shot" targeted to the centre of the court, actually on the body of your opponent. Nick Matthew, Lee Beachill and james Willstrop do that a lot. John White played that shot already in the Superseries Finals in 2004, but too often he hit himself with the ball or was cought with stroke against him.
As I said, I just started to experiment with that "middle court semi crosscourt" shot, and I have to say, I win a lot of points yesterday evening; today in the morning game i did surprised my coach who thought I play loose shots becasue I am tired or not focused enough.
I just want to ask for Ray/ Rita and the other players opinion about that shot. Big adventage of this shot is that you catch your opoonent by surprise, most often he's out of position to hit the ball targeted on his body, so...
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One thing really did hit my mind and i tried to implement it in my game to a big surprise of my coach and sparringpartners. I am talking here about "loose shot" targeted to the centre of the court, actually on the body of your opponent. Nick Matthew, Lee Beachill and james Willstrop do that a lot. John White played that shot already in the Superseries Finals in 2004, but too often he hit himself with the ball or was cought with stroke against him.
As I said, I just started to experiment with that "middle court semi crosscourt" shot, and I have to say, I win a lot of points yesterday evening; today in the morning game i did surprised my coach who thought I play loose shots becasue I am tired or not focused enough.
I just want to ask for Ray/ Rita and the other players opinion about that shot. Big adventage of this shot is that you catch your opoonent by surprise, most often he's out of position to hit the ball targeted on his body, so...
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From adam_pberes - 23 Oct 2009 - 14:31
From drop-shot - 10 Mar 2006 - 23:05 - Updated: 10 Mar 2006 - 23:05
Rita, here we agree - it's not a rule so it's not against the rules neither. I agree I am not as good as Power or Palmer, though I can try, ok :-)
And again – I agree on the ratio 1:50, meaning that you use that surprise shot once per match. maybe twice.
P.S> My job is not about winning, it's about selling dreams :-) you know, advertising :-D
And again – I agree on the ratio 1:50, meaning that you use that surprise shot once per match. maybe twice.
P.S> My job is not about winning, it's about selling dreams :-) you know, advertising :-D
From rippa rit - 10 Mar 2006 - 22:33 - Updated: 10 Mar 2006 - 22:34
Slavi, I don't see this as a rule, but just as a surprise shot. So looking at this shot in another way, if you only hit one of these particular shots, eg ratio 1: 50 shots, I guess I would prefer to concentrate on a higher ratio - then, if I am bored or feeling adventurous I would practice something like this maybe since it is not the norm type shot .
Just thinking of your reference to your job, you break the rules, only when you cannot win in the convenetional way, eh?
No problem, enjoy.
Just thinking of your reference to your job, you break the rules, only when you cannot win in the convenetional way, eh?
No problem, enjoy.
From drop-shot - 10 Mar 2006 - 21:25 - Updated: 10 Mar 2006 - 21:25
Rita, I read what you say clearly. To make you surprised i understand it even.
But, let me just say one sentence that is kind of motto at my work:
"Know the rules but be willing to break them". Here I stop my post and wait for your reply ;-D
But, let me just say one sentence that is kind of motto at my work:
"Know the rules but be willing to break them". Here I stop my post and wait for your reply ;-D
From rippa rit - 10 Mar 2006 - 07:26 - Updated: 10 Mar 2006 - 07:30
Slavi I will start the ball rolling.
I have never taught a student to hit the ball down the middle, as I spend most of my lesson trying to to teach how to hit the ball out of the middle of the court....if that makes sense.
Mind you, maybe a surprise serve down the middle depending where the opponent is standing to return the serve that is, and maybe if the score is stuck at 7 all for 5 minutes, it can work to upset the rhythm.
That shot, down the centre, I put in the class of hitting off the backwall (backwards style), a bit of a "flash" shot, as well as the skew lob serve, and skew toss, when mostly the normal shot would have been just as effective. I like it as a surprise on serve though.
Any shot where you have to duck, jump, or run for cover, waiting for the return, I do not recommend but if it helps the enjoyment of the game, good oh. Ummh! Protective Eyewear.
Slavi, when you get as good as J Power, D Palmer etc you can do whatever you want and we will be happy!!!! True
Slavi, fishing stories and squash stories can be a bit the same, from what I have heard.
Seriously, watching those matches is very motivating, and reenforcing and gives great encouragement if you can copy any of their play with success.
Over to Ray for his spoke.
I have never taught a student to hit the ball down the middle, as I spend most of my lesson trying to to teach how to hit the ball out of the middle of the court....if that makes sense.
Mind you, maybe a surprise serve down the middle depending where the opponent is standing to return the serve that is, and maybe if the score is stuck at 7 all for 5 minutes, it can work to upset the rhythm.
That shot, down the centre, I put in the class of hitting off the backwall (backwards style), a bit of a "flash" shot, as well as the skew lob serve, and skew toss, when mostly the normal shot would have been just as effective. I like it as a surprise on serve though.
Any shot where you have to duck, jump, or run for cover, waiting for the return, I do not recommend but if it helps the enjoyment of the game, good oh. Ummh! Protective Eyewear.
Slavi, when you get as good as J Power, D Palmer etc you can do whatever you want and we will be happy!!!! True
Slavi, fishing stories and squash stories can be a bit the same, from what I have heard.
Seriously, watching those matches is very motivating, and reenforcing and gives great encouragement if you can copy any of their play with success.
Over to Ray for his spoke.
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be sure that now and then i may contact you and Ray as you are my digital mental gurus of squash
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works well in doubles though ;)
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